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Offline Ket

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For fuck sake, this isn't a court room, it's a thread on a gaming community forum. Just give the man his items back and give the robbers a warning or something.




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I love it how you're all basing your information off of a raging guy who lost his items. He died ICly and said "running to spawn" and ran the completely opposite way from the town. There are no logs provided to back up any of his statements saying otherwise. As far as I am concerned his ONE witness can vouch for MY side and not his. No one even CARED to ask for the witness. All I have read was you guys flaming at an event NONE of you witnessed. He was legitly cut down from behind because his back was turned and he wouldn't leave. We've done banditry before and a knight in shining armor to simple folks who, first on their agenda, is to get rich quick, approaches randomly why wouldn't we attempt to go for him?  And as Dakota provided (which he was not there this one event, He is Maximus and this BR isn't even about him so don't pin him with us) there is no rule saying a bandit can not go for the valuables. Why would a robber go for the basics or the cheap shit? Give me your leather boots! And not your Steel sword!... Makes perfect RP sense. And why is there a wanted poster in town? To help RPly prevent this sort of thing. If he died it's his fault for not being cautious enough, it is the wilderness/woods, not the town. And there wasn't any witnesses this time to report it, we're on when it's active as well and no one reports us then either. It was three guys with longswords against one guard. The attack was legit with an attempt from behind and there was absolutely no way he could have avoided it. It was no where near the town or any other guards. Please for the love of god learn your facts first before you base everything off of a raging player. People who are mad tend to twist the truth to best fit their situation, i'm sure you all know this. And on a side note, he approached three armed people in the woods. We did not even move towards him and were off to the side of the road. He walked to us and engaged in the RP by eyeing us/glaring. Would you seriously approach three armed people in leather armor, helmets, longswords and a bow? No.

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How about you dont be a bandit one minute and then go back to fucking town the next? If you going to be a bandit, you stay outside the fucking city and stay there. Pretty boring. I dont even know why people are 'banditing' because all it is is an excuse to loot whore.

Offline lil_killa

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We legitimately attacked the guy from behind by typing /me attempts to slash at the man neck, he turns around going wth, i told him he was being robbed, so he then replied ok I died and runs away, so we chased him down telling him to down some Valuables so he drops us a arrow shalf and begins to run away again.


Well when it takes a year to make your own stuff and for example The tailor HAS to buy all his skins because there are never animals to kill, so the only other option is robbing or wait for eternity.

Offline Ket

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I love it how you're all basing your information off of a raging guy who lost his items. He died ICly and said "running to spawn" and ran the completely opposite way from the town. There are no logs provided to back up any of his statements saying otherwise. As far as I am concerned his ONE witness can vouch for MY side and not his. No one even CARED to ask for the witness. All I have read was you guys flaming at an event NONE of you witnessed. He was legitly cut down from behind because his back was turned and he wouldn't leave. We've done banditry before and a knight in shining armor to simple folks who, first on their agenda, is to get rich quick, approaches randomly why wouldn't we attempt to go for him?  And as Dakota provided (which he was not there this one event, He is Maximus and this BR isn't even about him so don't pin him with us) there is no rule saying a bandit can not go for the valuables. Why would a robber go for the basics or the cheap shit? Give me your leather boots! And not your Steel sword!... Makes perfect RP sense. And why is there a wanted poster in town? To help RPly prevent this sort of thing. If he died it's his fault for not being cautious enough, it is the wilderness/woods, not the town. And there wasn't any witnesses this time to report it, we're on when it's active as well and no one reports us then either. It was three guys with longswords against one guard. The attack was legit with an attempt from behind and there was absolutely no way he could have avoided it. It was no where near the town or any other guards. Please for the love of god learn your facts first before you base everything off of a raging player. People who are mad tend to twist the truth to best fit their situation, i'm sure you all know this. And on a side note, he approached three armed people in the woods. We did not even move towards him and were off to the side of the road. He walked to us and engaged in the RP by eyeing us/glaring. Would you seriously approach three armed people in leather armor, helmets, longswords and a bow? No.




Ever heard of paragraphs?








Also it's really funny how they all JUST made accounts on the forums... just to defend themselves








Cake should get his items back.
As for the bandits? GTFO of the town, try robbing in the wilds.


There should be a rule of robbing : You can rob the same guy only after a day


Offline Genesis

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Well when it takes a year to make your own stuff and for example The tailor HAS to buy all his skins because there are never animals to kill, so the only other option is robbing or wait for eternity.

Good point, actually. It's nearly impossible to actually do the profession you picked, considering there are absolutely no animals to hunt, and every single ore deposit is mined with one hit.



Cake should get his items back.
As for the bandits? GTFO of the town, try robbing in the wilds.

There should be a rule of robbing : You can rob the same guy only after a day



I agree with Ketchup in the part I quoted.


Also, there should be a cap on how many crowns you can rob, like I stated before. For example, I think 100 crowns would be a good amount, considering it takes quite some time to get that much.
« Last Edit: 29-01-2012 by Genesis »


Offline Pawx

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From what I heard, These Two or Three men decided to join the guards, then rob a fellow guard(Wtf), They take his crowns, Cake Respawns, and they come over and RDM him and take all his items.

I don't need proof to understand that fact that Cake's items are gone, I don't see the point of him lying.


+Support


[LOOC] Cinok: learn to rp better
The Irony in your Statement is extreme Good Sir!

Offline lil_killa

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All he lost was an couple arrow shalfs and a sword that all he had on him,

1:Also it's really funny how they all JUST made accounts on the forums... just to defend themselves

2:Cake should get his items back.
As for the bandits? GTFO of the town, try robbing in the wilds.

3:There should be a rule of robbing : You can rob the same guy only after a day


1:Its called telling your side of the story and there nothing really funny about it.





 2:Get your Story Straight and maybe read blackelfs post THE GUARD was outside the city in the forest, AKA the Wild


 3:We didn't rob him more than once.


Everything you have stated is incorrect.





From what I heard, These Two or Three men decided to join the guards, then rob a fellow guard(Wtf), They take his crowns, Cake Respawns, and they come over and RDM him and take all his items.

I don't need proof to understand that fact that Cake's items are gone, I don't see the point of him lying.


+Support


We did not take any of his crowns, and he ran away from us saying he died without giving us what we wanted, and no we did not rdm him.
« Last Edit: 29-01-2012 by lil_killa »

Offline Genesis

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^ Didn't feel like going through all the trouble to quote that, but if he simply ran away, and you didn't RDM him, then how did he lose all of his items?


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^ Didn't feel like going through all the trouble to quote that, but if he simply ran away, and you didn't RDM him, then how did he lose all of his items?

Good Point

Learn 2 lie


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The Irony in your Statement is extreme Good Sir!

Offline Khorn

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Didn't it say that after running away the bandits got pissed and just killed him?

Though honestly, there is no proof. It really isn't hard to take a screen shot of console logs.

I wouldn't go either way with this.

Offline whyku

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Didn't it say that after running away the bandits got pissed and just killed him?

Though honestly, there is no proof. It really isn't hard to take a screen shot of console logs.

I wouldn't go either way with this.

Aye, people should apply to be able to rob. I think that is the best thing to do because it is turning into any asshole with a dagger can rob. There should be a PM app also so don't get meta'ed. Also the rules should be like so


1.Do not just try and insta kill everything with one /me, it fucks up the other persons RP.

2.The limt should be 500 crowns, you can take ANY weapon they have equip'ed.

3.There is NO RDM because they didn't give you want you wanted, Get screenshots and a admin and be done with it.

4.Do NOT start running around with a group of 3+ when there is only 4 people on the server.
Your "bandit group" can't take up more then 80% of the server population.


Also, everyone back the hell off. There is no proof yes it sounds like they are just being assholes BUT there is no proof and I can tell its hard to say your side of the story when there is 6+ people picking at EVERY word you say.


Ps: If we need someone to run the bandit app's. I would be glad too, there are not many active admins available to run things and get more work then they already have.


- Support, there is no proof.

« Last Edit: 29-01-2012 by whyku »

Offline Dakota

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^ Didn't feel like going through all the trouble to quote that, but if he simply ran away, and you didn't RDM him, then how did he lose all of his items?

Good Point

Learn 2 lie


Stop twisting people's words what he trying to say was that they rped with him he /me died and dropped a few arrow head's and ran from the group of three players. They rushed after him and in game killed him and he posted a ban request after he rage quit or purposely quit to keep the logs from being seen due to this error.

Offline Black Elf

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Yea troll my post, that's appropriate. And who said he was in the town? He was out of the city and approached us, who were armed to the teeth and didn't even look friendly. As for the town, RPly there are guards everywhere and since NO ONE KNOWS MY IDENTITY or has EVEN BOTHERED TO REPORT ME ICLY, my guy can freely go in and out of towns. Plus since it's ROLEPLAY and i can have plots, my character actually has an alibi ICly to avoid accusations. If you guys ever decided to take the 5 seconds and RP this out. And for the death, as I said it as RP death, and he did a /me dies, then he literally just ran off. That made no sense to any of the four of us present. And he continued to run away from the town where we followed in saying in LOOC that since you died, items should be lost. He then decided to literally drop two arrow shafts and continue to run away.
« Last Edit: 29-01-2012 by Black Elf »

Offline lil_killa

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If i would like to point out RDM= RANDOM DEATH MATCH = People can die with being rdmed, Now running to avoid rp and calling us Powergamers seems to be alright here.

Now if someone had the LOGS it would be different but since bandits have a bad reputation here you use tend to hate on us and side with the guy who got robbed.


Also, even if there are a 1000 people on the server it wouldn't matter because if 1 LONE guard walks up to 3 Armed People in the middle of the forest, if no one is there to see hes still dead.
« Last Edit: 29-01-2012 by lil_killa »

Offline whyku

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If i would like to point out RDM= RANDOM DEATH MATCH = People can die with being rdmed, Now running to avoid rp and calling us Powergamers seems to be alright here.

No its not right! You guys don't have any proof also so no one knows how to answer this.

Just please someone lock this topic tell there is some sort of proof to be shown.


Offline Genesis

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I agree and disagree with Whyku. There should be a limit on how much you can take, but I think 100 crowns and no equipment sounds more reasonable. Think about it. It takes new players a long time to make 100 crowns, and even longer probably to get a weapon. It would be unfair to take both. And 500 crowns is a lot of money.


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Offline lil_killa

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I don't know where the 500 crowns came from because we didn't take anything but his sword, we left everything else at his body but he decided to disconnect and not retrieve his stuff.

Offline Black Elf

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Raptor can support that we leave items. We didn't even know Whitley (raptors character) was an admin and we still only wanted a specific item. We left his items on his body, took the one thing demanded for and left.

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Raptor can support that we leave items. We didn't even know Whitley (raptors character) was an admin and we still only wanted a specific item. We left his items on his body, took the one thing demanded for and left.

Are you saying that after you kill people, you leave items? Killing people isn't allowed to begin with. You're supposed to let the person you have killed reflag, rather than beating them to death.


Also, considering all of Bennacio's (Cake's) weapons were gone after the fact, and he is claiming that you killed him and took them, it doesn't look like you only asked for "one item".
« Last Edit: 29-01-2012 by Genesis »


Offline Cake

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From what I know, they abused their House of Bromithil flags and used the longswords to rob people and thus they took my longsword and the rest of my items.

Offline lil_killa

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Well you know incorrect, because we have no flags

You had a longsword 4+ Arrow shaft 5+ iron ore, We took the sword and left the rest, but you decide to disconnect and rage.
« Last Edit: 29-01-2012 by lil_killa »

Offline Genesis

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I'm talking with Black Elf (Forceti Oken) right now. He admits that they did beat Cake to death, but that they only took one item off of the body, being the longsword (which is what they wanted to begin with), and left everything else, but Cake quit instead of looting his body for the rest of the items.


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I don't deny clicking him to death. Logs prove that it was after several minutes of LOOC asking him to comply, but him just voiding us and running off. And never did he step one foot into town.

 

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